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“They’re not after your body, they’re after your mind.”

The conversation took place during the height of the corona period. Traveling was difficult, but thanks to a few special people, it still became possible. Marcel Messing made the connection with David, and through various channels, someone came our way who was willing to fly us to the Isle of Wight in his own plane. Through the storm, with an umbrella on the tiny airstrip, David was there to welcome us. That story alone would’ve made for a great podcast.

We talked about control, manipulation, and the system behind it all. About how our perception is shaped on a daily basis, and why true freedom begins with how we view the world.

“If you control perception, you control behavior.”

Because if you can steer perception, you can control behavior. According to David, what’s happening worldwide has nothing to do with health or safety, but everything to do with control over consciousness. Through genetic manipulation, digital IDs, 5G, and surveillance, a structure is being rolled out in which people no longer live—they function.

“The idea is to connect everything and everyone to AI.”

We’re still proud of this powerful conversation, and it absolutely deserves a wider audience. It touches on all the major themes—then, and especially now—like the gender agenda and the climate hoax…

Step by step, an anti-human agenda is being implemented. Humanity is being made more synthetic with the goal of complete dependency. And as long as we keep believing in the chaos they create, we’ll also accept their order. “Order out of chaos,” as the motto goes of the 33rd degree of Freemasonry. Create the chaos, then offer your order. The Great Reset as the solution to the problem you created yourself.